neither here nor there
Meaning
Not relevant or important to the current situation; doesn’t affect the main point.
Origin
Recorded from the late 16th–17th centuries. It contrasts “here” and “there” to suggest something has no definite place or bearing—hence, it’s irrelevant to what matters.
Notes
Means “irrelevant” or “beside the point.” Often used to dismiss a detail and refocus. Can sound a bit blunt in arguments.
Examples
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Whether she likes jazz is neither here nor there; we just need someone who can manage the venue.
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The typo in the email was neither here nor there, since everyone understood the schedule.
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His personal opinions are neither here nor there when it comes to following company policy.
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The restaurant’s decor is neither here nor there—the food is what keeps people coming back.
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How they met is neither here nor there; what matters is that they work well together now.
Grammar & Usage Notes
Usually used as a predicate complement: “That’s neither here nor there.” Can modify a clause: “Whether he agrees is neither here nor there.” Fixed wording; rarely altered.
Synonyms
- irrelevant
- beside the point
- immaterial
- of no consequence
Antonyms
- relevant
- material
- to the point
- pertinent